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Post by rolandjs on Apr 10, 2007 22:19:38 GMT 10
Prima Scriptura & Sacred Tradition [both are Ideas within magisterium/teaching authority]
To me, these two topics join the long list of topics very often misunderstood by friend and foe alike.
So often, topics are severely distilled, examples: "Why do you pray to Mary and to statues instead of God?" "Why do you use symbols in your Passover or Communion?"
I would like to begin and maintain a discussion of at least Prima Scriptura and Sacred Tradition from a friend-friend approach.
Rather than opening with severe distillations of "what I disagree about," I hope to see two or more Christian friends, bit by bit, piece by piece, post by post, share what is known, understood and practiced concerning two cherished and treasured Ideas: Prima Scriptura Sacred Tradition
RolandJS
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Post by Evanescence on Apr 18, 2007 22:02:29 GMT 10
For those who don't understand Prima Scriptura, for it is not so well known could you maybe write a brief definition? Maybe a "Dummies guide to Prima Scriptura" ?
Would this be your basic definition?
Scripture is inerrant. Tradition is not inerrant nor infallible. Magisterium is not inerrant nor infallible.
(inerrant meaning to be free from error)
Evanescence
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Post by rolandjs on Apr 20, 2007 0:28:17 GMT 10
Would this be your basic definition? Scripture is inerrant. Tradition is not inerrant nor infallible. Magisterium is not inerrant nor infallible. (inerrant meaning to be free from error) Let's not use that definition. I do not use that definition. My next post will carry my beginning definition... Roland
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Post by rolandjs on Apr 20, 2007 0:30:42 GMT 10
Basically, my road to my practice of Prima Scriptura started with...
"What's a layman's definition of sola scriptura? Sola Scriptura --Scripture is the only infallible rule of faith. Emphasis on the word infallible. --Scripture is not the only rule of faith, but it is the only infallible rule of faith. All other proposed standards for doctrine or practice must be judged in the light of Scripture."
"What's a layman's definition of solo scriptura? Solo Scriptura --This term was coined to distinguish the view of Scripture held by many Protestants today --the view that Scripture is the only rule of faith --from the view promoted by the Protestant Reformers in the 16th century. Solo Scriptura says that all we need is the Bible, that no creeds or catechisms or ecclesiastical authority have lawful places in our doctrinal thinking, but that each individual alone with his own copy of the Bible is able to figure everything out all by himself and for himself." [end Timothy G. Enloe quote from my harddrive text file]
I have adjusted the above material as time passed. I will give my adjustments piece by piece as we discuss this. Roland
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Post by rolandjs on Apr 20, 2007 0:35:42 GMT 10
As Timothy G. Enloe rejects SolO, I reject SolO. As TGE accepts SolA, I accept SolA with modifications, which became my lifelong process of study [when I study, I need to do more of it!] [quoting myself from Catholic Defender's Community]: To me, the process of Prima Scriptura can and will include magisteriums (teaching authorities) such as, but not limited to, references, dictionaries, encyclopedia, different English translations, different Bible Study systems and annotations, Catholic catechism/Comp and so on. catholicdefende.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=41Prima Scriptura -- again for the first time Roland
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Post by rolandjs on Apr 20, 2007 0:40:56 GMT 10
"--Scripture is not the only rule of faith, but it is the only infallible rule of faith." TGE
Let's not get derailed over this. Although this was TGE's wording some years ago, it is not my wording today, it is a severe distillation.
Since we are not debating Prima Scriptura vs Sacred Tradition, let's not derail this discussion into a us vs them, please.
I still am looking forward to someone, in their own words, explain to ne -- what is Sacred Tradition.
Roland
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